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Mandatory trained to death!

I have in nearly 40 yrs wasted much time on mandatory training. That is not to say I think it is a waste of time, but the number of times I have done the same thing is excessive!

There has to be a better way. I worked simultaneously as a bank nurse for a private hospital and an NHS hospital. I had to do similar mandatory training for both 2 resuscitation sessions, 2 back care, 2 fire sessions etc etc each year! I then did some freelance work for a mental health trust and had to cover all the manadatory training again!!! One year I did 3 fire sessions, 3 Infection control, 3 governance, safeguarding. 

There must be a way of deciding a national basic mandatory training so that it will count for more than one place. Each rtrust is so obcessed with defensive operation its wasting money unnecessarily.

And in some place I am glad to say they now put different lengths of time sessions last before they need updating....that's intelligent too!

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edited on Nov 2, 2018 by Isabel DHSC

Amy J France 3 weeks ago

Has any of the training you have done been able to carried across roles?

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Jacqui 3 weeks ago

Each organisation insisted on me completing its own mandatory training even though any one of the organisations training would have been as applicable in the next organisation(fire, safeguarding, rescuss, infection control etc were all generic) and any of it would have bee appropriate to carry across roles. I see no reason why the majority are not transferrable.
But defensive practice means that no organisation will trust to another.
.....And yet when nurses first started doing Intravenous (IV) drugs, even through I was deemed safe in one hospital, every hospital made you do its own assessment before you could give IV drugs in their hospital. The last decade or so, no one has worried about that even though I've had fewer practice hours and checking my tecnique as a bank nurse doing and invasive, hazardous procedure would have been appropriate! No they were more worried I couldnt start work till I had had my governance or equality,diversity training!

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Jamie 1 week ago

I quit my bank A&E job because that trust insisted I take A/L etc. from my normal trust to do loads of mandatory training again that I did at the other trust just a few months before. As a result they were ridiculously short staffed for god knows how many weekends after that, patients suffer over bureaucracy like this.

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Carla Burns 1 week ago

Totally agree with this! As someone responsible for tying to manage mandatory training across a busy hospital I would definitely appreciate national standardised requirements for mandatory training - it's a minefield!

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Joseph DHSC 1 week ago

Hi Carla - Thanks for your comment. I'd like to understand more about how you and your trust decide what training becomes mandatory. I understand that there is a core national standard already and welcome your thoughts on them too. You can find them here - http://www.skillsforhealth.org.uk/services/it...ining-framework

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Carla Burns 1 week ago

Hi Joseph - we use the Core Skills Framework and the intelligence from legislation e.g. around Safeguarding (Bournmouth/Collegaite) as well as guidance from orgs such as the Resus Council - this is where it starts to get more complex. Even though the CSF is a really good start, it then becomes complicated when it refers to training being determined by local risk assessment - which makes sense as you can respond to your actual environmental need but then makes recording and reporting and comparing much more difficult!

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Joseph DHSC 1 week ago

Thanks Carla - would you mind getting in touch via workforceexperience@dh.gsi.gov.uk? I'd like to talk in some more detail and wonder if you'd be ok to speak on the phone.

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