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stop recouping training costs - it's a deterrent to accepting training

no, I'm paying for a training course that is applicable and beneficial to my current job role as the Trust won't pay for it.

How does your employer help you to develop your skills or career?

They don't - there is very little training available in areas relevant to my job role.

What would you like to happen to enable you to develop your skills and career more?

I was recently offered training in an area that is very short staffed. However when the learning agreement arrived it required me to pay all the training costs back if I left the Trust at any time in the 2 year part-time course (£4k), and then a percentage of the fees after that. This included having to leave due to illness. I know 2 people who previously attempted that course and had to drop out for various reasons before it was complete. I told the Trust why I was not going to do the training and they refused to drop the requirement, and I subsequently left the Trust. Please do not make people pay fees back for courses that are in great demand in the NHS as it results in experienced staff not doing the courses, or feeling valued as an employee.

edited on Nov 2, 2018 by Isabel DHSC

Jamie 8 months ago

I have to completely fend for myself with my course/exam fees, having to turn to charities for grants. My degree programme in Biomedical Science was also cancelled at the start of my 2nd year as a cost cutting measure, meaning 100's of scientists lost out on placements and jobs.

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Golly DHSC 8 months ago

Hi Jackio,

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with us.

You mentioned that there isn't much training available in areas relevant to your role. Can you tell us a bit more about this?


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jackio 8 months ago

Let me just clarify, I am a mental health nurse and the specialist training that has become increasingly scarce is in psychotherapeutic interventions. The training I was offered and dropped out of due to the risk of becoming liable for training costs, if I became ill for example, was to become an Approved Mental Health Professional. These are the people employed by local authorities and the NHS to assess people under the Mental Health Act, and they are in very short supply.

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Hayley Pincott 8 months ago

I have to agree with both comments here, although I can only talk about Jamie as I work in the same area as Jamie wants to go into. I work in a avery specialist area of cellular pathology, there are only a few of us in the UK, and I'm an associate practitioner (band 4) who carries out the same work as the specialist biomedical scientist I work with (band 6). However there is no opportunity for me to progress and finish my degree, I'm doing the job of a qualified member of staff but don't have the recognition as one. I feel respected and supported by my colleagues and line manager so this lack of training and funding comes from higher up.

With the shortfall in pathologists soon approaching the NHS is going to rely on biomedical scientists even more to provide a diagnostic service. Without blood bank there will be no A&E, ITU, Surgical service, Maternity, and some oncology services....not much of an NHS and this is only talking about one discipline of pathology out of about 17.

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